Prop 8

Oct. 17th, 2008 05:47 am
twirlgrrl: (help)
http://www.lathefamily.org/2008/10/dont_take_it_so_personally_5.shtml

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90ANZiOK0o0

I actually posted these links, and the fact-check, to Blue's journal too. I almost never put anything "political" on there, but I wanted the video especially to be viewed by its intended audience--my family.

I am aware that there are things said on the video that will bug some of you. Please realize that the Adventists Against Prop 8 campaign originates from a religion with an extremely conservative majority. Most Adventists believe what you would expect conservative Christian people to believe about homosexuality. But they also have a long history and strong identity of fighting for the separation of church and state, religious liberty, and the rights of those who hold minority views or beliefs. From that perspective I think the video is effective and I hope that the Adventists I know see it. Oh, that reminds me, I need to go put it up on facebook too.

Please donate to the No on Prop 8 campaign, if you haven't already--no matter where you live.
twirlgrrl: (rainbow balloons)
http://adventistsagainstprop8.org/fact-checking-the-csc/

This link says a lot of the same things as the pdf I just painstakingly cleaned up and pasted into my LJ. But it's easier to pass around! :)

Prop 8

Oct. 8th, 2008 06:26 am
twirlgrrl: (rainbow balloons)
Wait, suddenly we're upside down on Prop 8 in California? How did that happen? I thought it was a pretty comfortable No.

HMPH.

Well, I wasn't going to post this before, but now I think it may be useful. See, there's a conflict in my church about the issue of gay marriage. First, a Pacific-region church magazine published some lame-ass articles about why gay marriage is ooh, scary. I was so upset and disappointed--they don't usually get involved in politics or legal issues except for freedom-of-religion stuff, like helping Adventists sue when they lose their jobs for not working on Saturdays. I'm really hoping this isn't part of a trend. Anyway, in response, a group was formed called Adventists Against Proposition 8, with a petition and rebuttals and everything. The church then published an article acknowledging that there are different points of view, especially because the church is so interested in religious liberty and separation of church and state. The article with a quote by the president of the regional church union saying people should vote the way they think is best--which is more in line with what I'd expect to hear from them.

The following article contains a bunch of rebuttals against some of the arguments and legal cases being cited in the fear smear on Prop 8. I got it from Adventists Against Prop 8; apparently it was written by a Mormon lawyer in response to a flyer or something. Since the email from the Prop 8 I read yesterday said that Prop 8 is going under because of fear tactics around legal issues, I thought this info might come in handy for discussions, blog posts, etc. It's a little messy because I grabbed it from a pdf; I tried to clean it up as much as I could.

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