twirlgrrl: (obama)
twirlgrrl ([personal profile] twirlgrrl) wrote2008-12-18 06:35 am
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Now this icon is a bit ironic

I'm having a hard time with this Rick Warren thing. I mean, I understand the whole inclusive, big-tent idea. In principle I think that's a great idea. But you have to draw the line somewhere. This guy says some pretty noxious things about gay people--noxious, unkind, mean-spirited things.

I just realized as I was watching a news clip about this that I have one of Warren's books--a very sweet and earnest lady gave it to me, and I haven't had a chance to read it to figure out whether there's anything there for me. Ha! I guess that goes to show you how pro-big-tent I am. I try not to hide from the ideas of any particular segment of society, with the exclusion of racists. I've had enough racism, I don't need any more, thanks. But I think that the inauguration is the wrong place to bring such a divisive figure. There will be no debate, no exchange of ideas. It's supposed to be an inspiring moment. It makes me really sad to think that the moment will be marred by this guy. Personally, I'd rather have Jeremiah Wright give the invocation.

I have a feeling that Obama is not the back-down type, though.

[identity profile] jerrygarciuh.livejournal.com 2008-12-23 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
You know when Lincoln asked his biggest enemies to be in his cabinet he was probably inviting some major assholes who he thought were very wrong but he also recognized that wrong, to a degree, is a matter of experience and perspective.

Obama including a bigoted Xian is big tent for real. It's American for real. He is actually trying to undo some of the partisan damage I think; get us all at the table and re-invent ourselves as one nation.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
~ attributed to Voltaire

[identity profile] two-roads.livejournal.com 2008-12-23 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
LOVE IT.

[identity profile] twirlgrrl.livejournal.com 2008-12-28 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, and I can halfway understand... I mean, we are actually a 50/50 country right now, or maybe like 51/49, and I think that squaring off as enemies all the time is not serving us well.

My heart just breaks for my friends for whom this is so hurtful. That's the crux of it to me. It feels like salt in a very fresh wound. So even though I can see what you are saying, and can even feel hopeful about it in a way, it still makes me really sad. I think that's my biggest problem with it.