Wow

Mar. 9th, 2009 11:12 am
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If you're going to read a multi-threaded, cross-blogged discussion/argument/debate on race, be sure you set aside a few days. Especially if the particular teacup in which the tempest rages is the science fiction community. SF people read and write; I mean they really truly READ and they actually WRITE. A lot. So if you're going to try to follow all the individual arguments and discussion threads, and especially if you're going to try to figure out how and when the discussion originated, clear your calendar. It took me untold hours just to find a relatively concise summary of the spark that lit the match this time. And I've finally had to abandon the discussion in favor of revenue-generating pursuits. But I learned a lot, and that's the point. And I added a couple of LJers to my reading list, and found a bunch of really great links. Here's one I'd like to share with you:

http://bossymarmalade.livejournal.com/483524.html

Date: 2009-03-09 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eac.livejournal.com
I liked this: "And I would never dream of telling anybody to "let it drop" when what "it" is ... is themselves."

Date: 2009-03-10 02:54 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-03-09 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] two-roads.livejournal.com
What a beautiful post. Where was the original debate?

Date: 2009-03-10 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlgrrl.livejournal.com
That has been difficult to determine. Here are some summaries to give you a general idea of what is going on:

http://snacky.livejournal.com/560654.html?thread=5172494#t5172494

http://wistfuljane.livejournal.com/218945.html

http://spiralsheep.livejournal.com/284824.html

http://thingswithwings.livejournal.com/57068.html

Date: 2009-03-10 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlgrrl.livejournal.com
Here's another good summary I just found:

http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/155427.html

Date: 2009-03-09 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aubreym.livejournal.com
Ok - weird crossing over of LJ communities. I started following this whole issue through http://community.livejournal.com/metafandom . It's interesting that it's crossed over from fandom to a much broader community. (Though I guess it started with a pro-writer rather than a fanficcer, so I shouldn't be surprised.)

Here's a concise summary: http://snacky.livejournal.com/560654.html?thread=5172494#t5172494 And there's a good link there to a bunch of links to read the whole timeline. Also - metafandom is a good place to find links too.

At a certain point I was just like... *boggle* Of course, since I'm white, that's easy for me to say.

Date: 2009-03-10 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlgrrl.livejournal.com
Oh, oops, I just gave Steph the same link above! I'm not surprised that you'd heard about this, given your proclivities.

I'm boggling at the sheer volume of words, mostly. But I'm loving the documenting and redocumenting and summarizing and link-collecting going on. It's amazing to see so much denial and reframing in the face of all that evidence.

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