Camden

Jan. 17th, 2010 10:56 am
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Have you guys ever been to Camden, NJ?

I drove through downtown Camden accidentally one night while trying to find my way back to my hotel. I have been in some sketchy places in my life, but nothing shook me like driving through Camden. I will never forget it, and I have been fascinated by it ever since. It's astounding to me that an American city would even be allowed to decay to that degree. The buildings are all old, made of bricks, and crumbling. They've haphazardly crumbled to nothing, so there are big holes on every block, but the buildings that are still standing are largely in awful shape. It is the most desolate and forsaken place I've ever seen, and yet people still live there.

I didn't take any pictures that night; I didn't think it was a good idea to stop, much less aim a camera at anyone or anything. I know I sound like a shrinking violet here; trust me, I am not, and it takes a lot to actually scare me, although I know enough to go on high alert when I'm places where I should really be paying attention. Oldtown Camden is pretty extreme--and I didn't even know about its murder-capital reputation until after my accidental venture. Not to mention, it seemed terribly rude and intrusive to even think of taking pictures; poverty is not a tourist's novelty. Anyway, when I google for pictures of Camden streets I almost never see any pictures with people in them. The worst parts of Camden all look abandoned in pictures, but believe me, they are not. There were lots of people hanging out on the streets and stoops of these boarded-up houses in the dark. I only saw an occasional electric light; it seemed like a lot of dwellings were occupied by squatters, but that's just an impression.

In this picture, for instance, you'd think that the buildings were abandoned, if only because of the broken windows in a place with harsh winters. But many houses that aren't completely boarded up are occupied. The streets I drove down looked just like this and there were people hanging out all over the place.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thepingoin/3496709609/in/pool-86359966@N00

And here's an example of house in decent shape on a block that used to be full of similar houses. Everything else has crumbled and it's the only one standing, but at least the others have been cleared away.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thepingoin/3531440755/in/pool-86359966@N00

And this one's for sale:
http://www.dvrbs.com/Camden-Streets/WW2-H-Binnix-ARL-2013.jpg

I was googling for pictures this morning and found this really cool site:
http://www.dvrbs.com/Camden-Streets/CamdenNJ-Streets.htm

It lists the streets of Camden, and most streets have their own page consisting of address-by-address street pictures, obits, ads and stories from newspapers, names and sometimes pictures of people who lived at the houses, etc. What a cool history project! Many of the current pictures of the buildings are from firefighting sites, which is a whole 'nother internet neighborhood I'd never visited.

If I had unlimited funds and time, one thing I'd love to do would be a street-by-street history project like that Streets of Camden site. San Francisco would be fun, impossible and overwhelming, but at least it's been here a while so it would have some interesting history. (Did you know that SF's population went from 500 in 1847 to 25,000 in 1849 due to the gold rush? And that there were nearly 350,000 people living in SF by 1900, which is just less than half of the current population? And that even though we have less than 800,000 residents now we're still the 13th largest city in the US?) But east coast cities would probably have much richer history. In fact, I think EVERY town should have a Streets of Camden-style history site. In my perfect world, every town would appoint a historian to maintain the project, and most of us would know a bit about the history of the people who had occupied our homes before us. Maybe if we had a greater sense of history it would help connect us to each other in a way that our society is rapidly leaving behind.

Date: 2010-01-17 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psyko-kitty.livejournal.com
Tony Campolo came to speak to my InterVarsity group in college. He was, at the time, working with kids in Camden. He brought a group of about 25 of them. They were ages 12 to 17 or so. They sang for us and told us about the city. They were great kids but their stories were - well let's just say I wouldn't have believed them if they hadn't been accompanied by an adult who knew them from home and wouldn't have let them lie about their history. One of my friends went the next summer to work for Urban Promise (Campolo's project in Camden). The stuff kids go through there is awful.

Date: 2010-01-17 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisyael.livejournal.com
I haven't ever been or heard about Camden, but I could take you to an area in Mobile that looks worse than that (we accidentally drove through it after Mardi Gras one year and it scared me, truly deeply, frightened me to the core. And made me intensely sad that my city has an area like this, where people "live").

Date: 2010-01-17 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artemis-rich.livejournal.com
My dad's family are from the Mobile area (they're Creek) and I remember being a kid visiting some rough areas. My dad is back in Alabama living in the country, but I haven't been there for 40 years.

Growing up in San Francisco in the late 60s and 70s there were still areas similar to the photos of Camden in the Fillmore, Western Addition and Hunter's Point. I know that's hard to believe for folks who migrated to SF in the mid-80s onward, but it's one of the reasons my mother moved us out of the City in 1973.

Even when I moved back 10 years later, I carried a car antenna up my sleeve when walking in my Western Addition neighborhood to use as a defensive weapon. There were houses on my block of Hayes Street that were twin to those in Camden. Last I drove past my old apartment a year or so ago, there was a cafe with sidewalk tables half a block away. The mind boggles.

Date: 2010-01-17 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisyael.livejournal.com
I'm almost old enough (but not quite) to remember the City back then (I grew up in Sonoma/ Marin). I definitely remember Richmond before the current gentrification: my mom's BF lived there and their house was in a nicer rough area... I remember going back a few years ago to Rakkasah (bellydance festival) and being SHOCKED how nice Richmond was!

An antena up the sleeve, I'm gonna remember that, good defensive trick!

Date: 2010-01-17 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artemis-rich.livejournal.com
Where'd you live in the North Bay? My mom and I were in unincorporated Corte Madera from 1973-83. She's in Petaluma now.

The car antenna is an old beatnik trick adopted by the early punks. It was handy (compact enough to slip up a sleeve) and quicky extendable when necessary. Not to mention, it can do a lot of damage. Like a whip, or a rapier.

Date: 2010-01-17 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisyael.livejournal.com
We moved around a lot, so: Valley Ford, Bloomfield (both in Sonoma), the hills in Sausalitto (near Marin City), San Rafael (Gerstle Park), then two different places in Novato... And oddly, my mom and stepdad live in Petaluma now!

I was born in '74, so I missed a lot of the punk tricks... Goth was more ascendent by the time I was in HS. :D

Date: 2010-01-18 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tellinellen.livejournal.com
i was there once. what is weird is that i am trying to piece together in my mind the story of being there and it's all confused. anyway, i can tell you for sure that i was aware (or at least i was told) that it was a really downtrodden place and that the very little i was seeing wasn't even the tip of the iceberg. i believe i was there to see a show with dan. now i need to consult with him on this.

Date: 2010-01-18 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlgrrl.livejournal.com
There's apparently a "redeveloped" part of Camden by the waterfront with a mall and an aquarium and stuff. That is *not* the part I was in.

Date: 2010-01-18 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tellinellen.livejournal.com
ps i love the last paragraph of this entry and that would be awesome. and i can't believe SF
a) expanded so rapidly
b) is so small!

Date: 2010-01-18 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlgrrl.livejournal.com
I know! I love the Gold Rush history of this town. And I love that it's a little big city, with all the stuff a big city has to offer but also manageable neighborhood sizes and stuff. I love running into people I know all over town--or at least I used to love that when I was out and about.

thepingoin

Date: 2010-01-27 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You should see this about Camden:
http://jcbourcart.com/pages.php?sec=ART%2F&page=Camden&media=01-Photography&the_file=0&text=Introduction.htm

JC Bourcart's a photographer with whom I came to Camden, he tries to take pictures of the people living there. He had a some troubles while doing it and sometimes has to tell a few lies or give some money, but at least tries to focus on them.

Re: thepingoin

Date: 2010-01-27 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlgrrl.livejournal.com
Thanks, anon!

Re: thepingoin

Date: 2010-01-27 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlgrrl.livejournal.com
AVG tells me this site is attacking my computer, so I can't look... *sigh*

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